After completing the 12.5" dobsonian using "C" channels, I immediately began thinking about designing and building the next one. I am very pleased with the first scope. It's an outstanding performer. Unsure of how the "C" channels would really work, and it being my first dobsonian, I overbuilt it just to make sure. I wanted the next scope to be much lighter.
The
upper "cage" assembly borrows from designs from
Mel Bartels and from
Bruce Sayre. The upper
"cage" is a single ring cut from 1/2" Finnish Birch
plywood. The "C" channels attach to three blocks that are glued
and screwed to the bottom of the ring. The ends of each channel are
slotted so that the ring can be slipped onto the ends of the channel. The
1/4"-20 bolts slide into these slots and are then screwed tight. When
disassembling, the bolts are just loosened and then the ring is slipped
off. No loose parts.
Note that the channels attach at a spacing of 120 degrees around the perimeter of the ring. With the 6" f/6 dobsonian, I could get away with using only two channels spaced along the sides of the tube. That construction permitted the adjustable bearings to be attached directly to the sides. By moving the location of the side channels from their position on the 12.5" dobsonian , the channels are equidistant from each other and allow the side channels to be attached. Although the center of gravity of the scope is offset a bit from the attachment of the bearings, the torque is minimal. It gives the illusion that the scope is floating. The spider is a conventional model made by Novak. It attaches to the ring via four aluminum angle pieces. |
I used the program "Plop" made available by David
Lewis (Thanks David) to investigate various mount designs. Surprisingly, a six-point mirror cell, where
the support points are arranged at a single radius, always provides better support than the conventional
nine-point mirror cell, where three support points are at an inner radius, and six support points are at an
outer radius! Since a six-point mirror cell is easier to make than a nine, and because I was curious to try
out the prediction, I made a six point mirror cell. The cell is machined from a plate of 1/2" aluminum stock.
The beams are machined from 3/8" X 1/2" aluminum bar stock. The mounting hardware is the same as taught by
Bruce Sayre. The beams pivot on stainless steel shoulder bolts.
The support pads are stainless steel tee (or weld) nuts. The mirror is then attached to the support pads
using silicone caulk. Even though the total adhesive area is approximately 7% of the mirror area, it is
firmly attached. Adhesives are very good in shear. |
What really makes this scope lightweight is the primary. It is a 3/4" thick Pyrex mirror. It weighs only 7 lbs! Unfortunately I don't know its figure. But foucault testing by the people who run the Chabot College mirror making class (thanks all) indicates it to be a reasonably figured mirror.
I have just completed this scope and have had little time with it. However, I have star tested the scope and it performs quite well. I can easily resolve the double-double in Lyra. Views of Saturn and Jupiter are quite good. Stars aren't quite the pinpoints I'm used to. I don't know if this is due to the primary or the mirror mount.
The rigidity of the scope is adequate for visual use. There is no visual sag or displacement when I move the telescope around. The motions are great - buttery smooth on both axes. It maintains collimation very well. I can torque the front end several degrees, but you never do that in practice. It certainly isn't rigid enough for photography.
The only problem I have to solve is vibration. If you tap the tube, the vibrations take 4-5 seconds to damp out. The amplitude is OK at low magnifications, but up at 150X or more; it is very annoying and interferes with focusing. I need to find a solution.
Update June 9, 2000
Above, I mentioned two areas of concern: stars not being the pinpoints I expected, and the long vibration damping time.
The first thing I did was to remove the 12" f/5.3 3/4" thick mirror and replace it with a 12.5" f/5 1" thick mirror. If I had any doubt about whether the silicone caulk would safely hold the mirror, those doubts were laid to rest. I had to use a razor blade to remove the support pads. There is no way it could ever fall off. With the 12.5" thin mirror I had excellent star images when vibrations settled down. This indicated that the figure on the 12" wasn't too good or the six-point cell wasn’t adequate.
I then addressed the long vibration damping time. I believe there are two major sources of the vibrations:
the C-channels and the rocker box. In my goal to make an ultralight, I pushed the limits of making everything
as light as I could, knowing that I would be trading off stiffness. I went a tad too far. In my first
12.5" dobsonian, the Mark I, with the Parks
full-thickness mirror, there was no problem with vibration. Its design is different, but it used 1" X 2"
channels. This ultralight uses 3/4" X 1 1/2" channels. In addition, the rocker box plywood is only 1/2"
thick vs. 3/4" on the original. The ultralight rocker box also has larger cutouts. There is noticeable play
in the rocker box. In fact, it is probably the greatest source of vibration.
The arrangement of the channels provides great stiffness in the primary axes (up-down and sideways) where
the forces are the greatest. However, the arrangement allows some twist (where there is very little force).
However, this twisting vibrational mode appears to be excited when the scope is moved. One way to resist
vibration is to increase stiffness. One way to increase stiffness is to increase the size of the channels
(actually, you want to increase the moment of inertia). The 1" X 2" channels are about 2 1/2 times as stiff
as the 3/4" X 1-1/2". However, another possibility is to use rectangular tubes. Rectangular tubes provide
the greatest stiffness of any geometry given the same mass and diameter. Cylinders are almost as good.
In fact, compare this design to my latest scope, the
12.5" f/5 ultralight. Overall, it adds about 10 lbs, but it is a lot stiffer. It uses three cylindrical
struts, but otherwise, it looks very much like the
12 " f/5.3 ultralight.
However, since the problem is vibration, not stiffness, I solved it by using "constrained-layer damping"
which is the most effective way to damp vibrations. To be most effective the second constraining member
should be approximately the same stiffness as the first member and cover at least half its length. I used
a second 3/4" X 1 1/2" strut placed back-to-back along the lower half of each strut, with a thin layer of
damping adhesive between them. The completed scope is shown.
The difference is remarkable. Without the upper cage assembly attached, the struts used to vibrate like a tuning fork (of course the scope isn't used this way, it was just a good test). Once I made the modifications, they damp out within a second. This added a couple of pounds in strategic areas that improved the performance immensely. Lightweight was one of my primary goals for the ultralight. Pushing the limits helped me understand what was important. In the ultralight's rocker box, I could see where it was flexing. So I redesigned the rocker box. I haven’t made one with the improved design for this scope yet, but you can see the design on the 12.5" f/5 ultralight. When I rebuild the rocker box for this scope, I’ll confirm its effect on this scope as well. I added a couple of other features that improve convenience. The first was to add the three small feet on bottom of the mirror box that can be seen in the previous image. These feet keep the mirror box from resting on the adjustment screws before I assemble the scope. Also, they keep the adjustment screws from digging into the rocker box when it is placed within it for transport. I drilled holes into the bottom of the mirror box about half way through. I then glued dowel rods into the holes and cut them the same length on my table saw after the glue dried. I use inexpensive rubber feet available from most hardware stores. The three supports are longer than the adjustment screws, but short enough in their positions so they don't interfere with telescope motion. |
Can you make a scope for me? Do you have any plans you can send?
I received numerous requests from friends, people I meet at star parties, and people who stumble across my website, to make them a scope or to send them plans so they can use or copy my designs. Since I received so many requests, I built a limited number of the 12.5" f/5 ultralight dobsonian (the Mark III) telescopes. I am no longer building these. However, If you think you would like to buy one, please contact Custom Telescopes by Plettstone. I am not planning to build any of my other designs at this time.
When I design and build, I sketch the ideas and design as I go. Consequently, I don't have any plans for my scopes. I am happy to answer the questions of any amateur who is interested in making a scope for his or her own personal use.
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